Draft thread

[skinsinparadise]

Kyle Brandt on GMFB this a.m. had his top five prospects on his annual "watch list" for rookies most likely to be "angry run" winners this year.

He puts Skattebo at the top of his list and acknowledged jeanty as the top rated back but thinks Skattebo would be his first pick with certain teams schemes and rosters. Loves the guy.

Tom Pellisaro agreed and mentioned Skattebo may not be a monster at 5'9" and 190 lbs but he runs like a monster and tom thinks about 90 of those pounds are in his thigh muscles.

Kyle chose Tyler Warren (no surprise) as the non-rb candidate and mentioned that Warren told him his muse and OG role model for running with the ball was one John "The Diesel" Riggins. And Kyle did a quick film and verbal celebration of #44.

Makes sense that Brandt, king of the Angry Runs segments and shirts, etc would love Skattebo. Skattebo is the ultimate angry runner. Skattebo though not 190. He's 216.

[GoingCommando]

E. M. Williams likely goes top 10. He think S. Stewart goes earlier than our pick, seemed to suggest somewhere between 10-20. He doubled down that Pearce gets taken too before our pick in spite of the baggage

Stewart feels like a lesser Rashan Gary. Late teens makes sense for him.

Pearce kind of feels like Edge 2 in this class. I think he's better than Mykel Williams and Mike Green. Mykell Williams's film is pretty much only good in those two Texas games, but the Atlanta radio guys talked about him and said that he was probably hurt the entire year. They liked him, and those Texas games earned him a ton of grace with Georgia fans. But they definitely think way more of Jalon Walker.

Pearce is a dude. He's a fearsome rusher and hitter and I think he garnered a lot of respect from SEC fans. The radio guys were pretty much baffled as to why he isn't considered an early first rounder, it seemed like they felt he was the clear cut best edge player in the SEC.

They liked the two LSU edges too, but I couldn't get a lot of details on them from their segments. Mainly they just seemed to like how big they were.

[skinsinparadise]

D. JT could go in the late first. That echoes by the way how the scouts in McGinn's article came off higher on him than the mock media. I personally like him, plays with energy, great motor, a beast against the run

I really like him too. Ever since he got some wins off Skoronski as a young starter, I've thought he's a nice and well rounded player. Super recruit too, so there could be a surprising amount of upside with him.

Ohio State was rich in second round quality last year. Sawyer is definitely a really good player too. Sawyer, Tuimaloa, and Gilotte are all pretty much as good as most of the first round edges being bandied around, and they're the reason I probably would pass on the position in round one. The only guy I love at 29 is Ezeiruaku, and I think he's probably going to get picked earlier in the 20s.

I think Will Howard is pretty good too. Wouldn't be crazy to me if he got picked in the second round. I like him more than Ewers or Milroe.

Just for shits and giggles, my QB rankings would be
1 - Ward
2 - Shedeur
3 - McCord
4 - Dart
5 - Leonard
6 - Howard

Yeah JT is a gamer, plays his best it seems in big spots. And does a bit of everything including picks, forced fumbles, tipped balls, etc. Is an animal against the run, fun watch. If Scot McClougan was still here, he'd call him the dude is a "football player". I can see him up the alley of this staff.

I like Sawyer my concern is the measurables, arm length, and his athleticism is a bit of mystery with him not running, etc. But another dude who plays his best in big games and can set the edge.

I just watched Gillotte this weekend. Great motor, get off and is disruptive. A big weird body build with the bigger upper body with small hands and arm length. 41 hurries, one of the best in this class.

i am with you as to wanting Ezeiruaku at 29. I think there is a good chance he will be there at 29 judging by buzz about him but will see. But after him, there are about 8 edges that feel similar grades to me. Sort of like running back for me. I love a bunch of these running backs for different reasons but if I can't get one, I am good with another.

[GoingCommando]

If Tet McMillan drops to like 20 ish, would you trade UP for him? I doubt he will, but a McLaurin/Samuel/McMillan WR trio would be awesome.

The problem is the ammo. I don't really want to hollow out our 2026 class for anyone in this one. But that would be tempting.

Schefter wrote that lots of teams are looking to trade down, but the only one he'd heard about looking to trade up was Denver. If that's the case, then maybe trading up will be cheaper than usual.

But that would also make trading down from 29 unlikely to get us back anything really valuable in return. So I'm thinking our best case scenario will be for a blue chip faller like Jahdae Barron to make his way to us.

[The Consigliere]

Draft a road grader type guard like Ratledge in the 2nd, take Skattebo in the 4th and all of a sudden we got a Ravens like identity.

Bates, Deebo, Skattebo, Noah Brown. Sounds painful for the opponents.

If you guys recall, when the Eagles were hot in 2023, the 49ers came to Philly and bullied them and beat them good.

I do think that style plays well against Philly. Kyren Williams sans his fumble gave Philly a problem in the playoffs.

Derrick Henry is significantly faster than Skattebo, 4.54 to 4.71. Henry's speed score is 98th percentile, Skattebo's is 23rd.

I'm just not buying that he'll work like that. Passing weapon I could see, but not as the bell cow. Would love to be wrong because he'd be fun as hell but I don't see it. If we draft him, I'd be putting everything on his explosion scores, but that would still mean, maybe he gets us past the line of scrimmage and pretty consistently gets wrestled down immediately after, not sure.

I definitely feel like they will be going defense, or trade down and defense. I get the feeling the RB will be selected with our 4th, or with a pick acquired on day 2, in round 3. I have a hard time seeing them take a RB at all, before round 3, unless one we really like falls to the 45-55 zone, and we move down from 1st or up from our late 2nd.

It's weird, with Trey Henderson seemingly going in round 1, it is really hard for me to envision getting a tier 1 or tier 2 projected guy. Really feels like it would be the Sampson/Giddens cohort, except it sounds like they've been looking at Tuten, Blue and Skattebo instead.

The one thing I can't really shake is that we absolutely positively have to trade down from our first to have a good draft, and to have an adequate one, we can get away with keeping our first, if we're able to flip our 2nd into multiple early day 3 picks. Frustrating.

[skinsinparadise]

If Tet McMillan drops to like 20 ish, would you trade UP for him? I doubt he will, but a McLaurin/Samuel/McMillan WR trio would be awesome.

Not me. I like Jayden Higgins almost as much and he likely is still there in the early 2nd.

[GoingCommando]

Where are you getting that 4.71 40 time from Consigliere?

First and goal from the 1 yard line with 2:29 left in the third quarter against Cincinnati, Skattebo wins the edge against two keyed up and unblocked defenders. You just don't make plays like that if you're slow.

He's not Derek Henry, he's short. But he does have genuine quickness and explosiveness.

[skinsinparadise]

Draft a road grader type guard like Ratledge in the 2nd, take Skattebo in the 4th and all of a sudden we got a Ravens like identity.

Bates, Deebo, Skattebo, Noah Brown. Sounds painful for the opponents.

If you guys recall, when the Eagles were hot in 2023, the 49ers came to Philly and bullied them and beat them good.

I do think that style plays well against Philly. Kyren Williams sans his fumble gave Philly a problem in the playoffs.

Derrick Henry is significantly faster than Skattebo, 4.54 to 4.71. Henry's speed score is 98th percentile, Skattebo's is 23rd.

I'm just not buying that he'll work like that. Passing weapon I could see, but not as the bell cow. Would love to be wrong because he'd be fun as hell but I don't see it. If we draft him, I'd be putting everything on his explosion scores, but that would still mean, maybe he gets us past the line of scrimmage and pretty consistently gets wrestled down immediately after, not sure.

I definitely feel like they will be going defense, or trade down and defense. I get the feeling the RB will be selected with our 4th, or with a pick acquired on day 2, in round 3. I have a hard time seeing them take a RB at all, before round 3, unless one we really like falls to the 45-55 zone, and we move down from 1st or up from our late 2nd.

It's weird, with Trey Henderson seemingly going in round 1, it is really hard for me to envision getting a tier 1 or tier 2 projected guy. Really feels like it would be the Sampson/Giddens cohort, except it sounds like they've been looking at Tuten, Blue and Skattebo instead.

The one thing I can't really shake is that we absolutely positively have to trade down from our first to have a good draft, and to have an adequate one, we can get away with keeping our first, if we're able to flip our 2nd into multiple early day 3 picks. Frustrating.

Skattebo ran 4.65 official. Not 4.71. Some had him in the 4.5's but the official time was 4.65, same time as Kyren Williams.

His super powers isn't just his violent running style but also his vision, hands and contact balance.

[The Consigliere]

For me, having done minimal homework, I'll list a couple of the guys graded at Edge and Corner that I find interesting within that 25-100 zone, I'd like any of these guys with our first, a traded into 2nd pick, our 2nd, or a traded into 3rd or our 4th pick.

Edge:
1. James Pearce: Power and athleticism.
2. JT Tuimoloau: Never lived up to mega recruit rep, but blew up in playoffs and just sounds real interesting, maybe he's finally putting it together?
3. Scourton: Sounds like a mix of floor and ceiling talent and a guy that could be coached up to greater heights.
4. Ashton Gillote-Sounds like he'd stick, maybe as a rotational piece, has a chance to be a moderate caliber starter maybe.
5. Josaiah Stewart-Maybe a situational pass rusher, but he would add some value for obvious passing downs and would probably come in round 3/4.

Corners of Interest:
1.Jahdae Barron-Kinda sounds perfect except for the size. Maybe duplicates Sainristril?
2. Trey Amos-Don't like his age, but I do find him pretty interesting.
3. Shavon Revel-Man, the injury discount makes him look soooooo interesting.
4. Nohl Williams-He just sounds like the kind of guy Quinn would LOVE.
5. Jacob Parrish-Height's an issue but otherwise sounds great.
6. Ben Morrison-Sounds like the injuries give you a discount on a guy who was a pretty big stud as a freshman.
7. Darien Porter-Kinda sounds like draft capital will match athletic traits but not experience.

[GoingCommando]

Draft a road grader type guard like Ratledge in the 2nd, take Skattebo in the 4th and all of a sudden we got a Ravens like identity.

Bates, Deebo, Skattebo, Noah Brown. Sounds painful for the opponents.

If you guys recall, when the Eagles were hot in 2023, the 49ers came to Philly and bullied them and beat them good.

I do think that style plays well against Philly. Kyren Williams sans his fumble gave Philly a problem in the playoffs.

You are speaking my love language with this kind of talk. I think that would be an amazing draft haul and great offensive identity. Throw Sinnott in there too. I still think he can be a really physical part of the offense too.

Another great OL fit for this is Anthony Belton from NC State. I started watching him after I saw he visited with us and I liked what I saw. He's the kind of huge, mauling tackle that would be really fun to see play next to Cosmi. NFL.com has him as a third rounder, so maybe we could make some trades to get into his draft range.

Skattebo in the fourth makes for a lot of wildly successful draft hauls for me. I think that's the potential steal of the draft, because the dude was a top five player in CFB last season, and I think he's going to end up being one of the best players from this class. Like top 15. All of this talk about him being a day 3 guy is making the value feel too good to be true with him. It kind of feels like all of the NFL lifers absolutely love him and are gushing over him, and that teams are secretly hoping he drops to them in like the fifth round as a career-making value pick. And then someone snaps him up in the second or early third and everyone is like, fine yeah, that's fair.