Re: Draft thread
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2025 4:33 pm
Been watching Tight Ends. Two of my favs for the later rounds. Dippre and Conyers. Both good athletes for their size. Physical tone setting players.
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I REALLY like this dude.skinsinparadise wrote: Sun Mar 23, 2025 4:33 pmBeen watching Tight Ends. Two of my favs for the later rounds. Dippre and Conyers. Both good athletes for their size. Physical tone setting players.
Emmanwori gives me workout warrior vibes. I don't care how athletic my Safety is. I need him to be a mastermind when it comes to instincts and play recognition. The fact that he killed it at the combine means some team will probably take him in the teens anyway.DWinzit wrote: Sat Mar 22, 2025 7:24 amAre you not including Emmanwori because you figure he is gone before our pick or do you like these two better? I am really big on any 3 of these guys but love Emman. What a great group
EDIT-my bad, I read your post wrong. I do like all 3 fitting in our backfield
Me too. Most of the projections I see for him have him somewhere around 70-100 in the draft, and unfortunately we don't currently have a pick in that range. He's the main reason I'm liking a trade down from 29. Could give us the mid-round ammo we need to get into range for Fanin without picking him at 61. That said, if we can't trade down from 29, I'm still open to picking Fanin at 61. I really love him and I actually think he could be a major weapon for our offense. Basically the plan would be to have Terry provide the verticality for the offense, and use Fanin and Deebo to put the slots and underneath coverage defenders into conflicts with things like rubs, hi-lows, screens, etc. because having two physical middle of the field YAC threats feels really hard to stop.
I definitely like Watts, but I'm curious whether he'd fit with what AP and DQ have seemed to look for in players, especially defensive players: very physical tone setters. Watts isn't a bad tackler and isn't afraid of contact, but physicality isn't a central part of his game. He's much more of a cerebral player, as you've noted.GoingCommando wrote: Sun Mar 23, 2025 11:01 amYep, if you watched a Notre Dame game sometime in the past two seasons, you heard a lot of gushing about Watts. He was the best player in the field for Notre Dame in most of their games. I'm a little surprised he feels so undervalued, but I also see it as a major opportunity for late drafting teams like us. Sometimes it feels like there is a pretty big disconnect between scouts and draftniks and the people who are much closer to the college game like the broadcasters and coaches and awards voters, and great players who are really celebrated by the college football world can get overlooked when they don't cleanly fit NFL archetypes. It's also hurt Watts's draft stock that he didn't work out at the combine, and players whose special trait is instinct almost always get undervalued anyway.skinsinparadise wrote: Sat Mar 22, 2025 1:16 pmI've watched Watts plenty in real time. And he had plenty of hype among college broadcasts, etc. Surprised not as much with mock drafters, Maybe because the in vogue safeties as far as hype seem to be the hybrid big nickle type or hybrid slot-FS. And Watts doesn't fit really either category. Though he did play his share of slot. Also guessing he's not an athletic freak like a Emmanwori. I guess we will find out on his pro day on the 27th.
I also think the mediocre tackling and physicality are big turnoffs for draftniks, as if anyone is allowed to routinely head hunt receivers any more. I don't think Watts is poor here, over running tackles happens sometimes when you're playing fast and trying to make plays at the line from a deep position. I think it's more about the fact that he just kind of wrestles ball carriers down instead of hitting through them. Draftniks want safeties who are big hitters.