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Re: Gizmodo: It’s Breathtaking How Fast AI Is Screwing Up the Education System

Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 11:22 pm
by Fitz
Career teacher here.

I think it's worth noting that AI detection programs are notoriously unreliable. They return such a large number of false positives that holding results against students is untenable.

Re: Gizmodo: It’s Breathtaking How Fast AI Is Screwing Up the Education System

Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 4:16 am
by Renegade7
Fitz wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 11:22 pm
Career teacher here.

I think it's worth noting that AI detection programs are notoriously unreliable. They return such a large number of false positives that holding results against students is untenable.
Either they know what the wrote or they don't in my experience.

You can only bs so much what you said you cited.

With turnitin it could detect AI. But it was rare I saw something that was actually flagged. The detection around citations was on point imo.

This is almost 2 years ago...that's a lifetime with respect go how fast AI is moving.

There has to be Governance around this and clear guidance in how to go about it...I think you used AI because a tool told me is different then huge amount of flagging and asking questions to prove they did or didn't write it themselves.

At the college I was teaching at you had to make a case that someone was plagiarizing, you couldn't jus witch hunt your students.

Re: Gizmodo: It’s Breathtaking How Fast AI Is Screwing Up the Education System

Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 11:48 am
by mcsluggo
this same discussion/debate happens everytime there is an information advance.

nobody will do research because encyclopedias now summarize everything for you
nobody will read anympre because you can watch the movie version/read the cliff notes
nobody will understand math because the calculator replaced the abacus
nobody will understand math because scientific calculators replaced calculators
nobody will understand math because statistical programs replaced using the t-stat tables at the back of stats books
everything is cheating because they can find it using google

ai is just a new research tool. old profs will be stymied because they aren't used to it. for the next generation the skill will be how to ask the correct AI questions, how to parse the information, and then how to use follow up questions to head down the trail to get to what you actually need to know with minimal errors. it is just a new, more powerful tool. smart people will maximize the tool. stupid people will still be stupid but with more "information" (and misinformation) squandered at their disposal.