Gizmodo: It’s Breathtaking How Fast AI Is Screwing Up the Education System

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It’s Breathtaking How Fast AI Is Screwing Up the Education System

The AI industry has promised to “disrupt” large parts of society, and you need look no further than the U.S. educational system to see how effectively it’s done that. Education has been “disrupted,” all right. In fact, the disruption is so broad and so shattering that it’s not clear we’re ever going to have a functional society again.

Probably the most unfortunate and pathetic snapshot of the current chaos being unfurled on higher education is a recent story by New York magazine that revealed the depths to which AI has already intellectually addled an entire generation of college students. The story, which involves interviews with a host of current undergraduates, is full of anecdotes like the one that involves Chungin “Roy” Lee, a transfer to Columbia University who used ChatGPT to write the personal essay that got him through the door:
When he started at Columbia as a sophomore this past September, he didn’t worry much about academics or his GPA. “Most assignments in college are not relevant,” he told me. “They’re hackable by AI, and I just had no interest in doing them.” While other new students fretted over the university’s rigorous core curriculum, described by the school as “intellectually expansive” and “personally transformative,” Lee used AI to breeze through with minimal effort. When I asked him why he had gone through so much trouble to get to an Ivy League university only to off-load all of the learning to a robot, he said, “It’s the best place to meet your co-founder and your wife.”
When you think about the current assault on the educational system, it’s easy to forget how quickly this has all happened. A more recent story from 404 Media shows that the American educational system was largely caught unawares by the deluge of cheating that the AI industry would inspire. After accumulating thousands of pages of school district documents via FOIA requests from around the country, 404’s Jason Koebler found that ChatGPT has “become one of the biggest struggles in American education.” Koebler’s reporting notes that, in the early days of the AI deluge, school districts were courted by “pro-AI consultants” who were known to give presentations that “largely encouraged teachers to use generative AI in their classrooms.” For instance, Koebler writes that the Louisiana Department of Education sent him…
…a presentation it said it consulted called “ChatGPT and AI in Education,” made by Holly Clark, the author of The AI Infused Classroom, Ken Shelton, the author of The Promises and Perils of AI in Education, and Matt Miller, the author of AI for Educators. The presentation includes slides that say AI “is like giving a computer a brain so it can learn and make decisions on its own,” note that “it’s time to rethink ‘plagiarism’ and ‘cheating,’” alongside a graph of how students can use AI to help them write essays, “20 ways to use ChatGPT in the classroom,” and “Warning: Going back to writing essays—only in class—can hurt struggling learners and doesn’t get our kids ready for their future.”
In other words, AI acolytes seemed to anticipate that the technology would effectively ruin essay-writing and test-taking, and wanted to spin it to present the ruination as mere “transformation”—a new way of doing things—instead of a destructive force that would devastate education.

This new way of doing things appears to be corrosive not just to students but also to teachers. Koebler’s investigation shows that the AI lobbyists courted schools by making appeals to instructors, showing them that the likes of ChatGPT would make curriculum-building and assignment-giving that much easier. Now, teachers, too, seem to be taking the easy way out, as a recent New York Times story shows that college professors have been using chatbots to create their lesson plans, just as their students are using them to complete said lesson.

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Humans are fucking up the education system way more than AI ever could. It’s a story as old as time told many times. Humans are scarier than anything else.
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When I was teaching at my Alma mater we had a tool called TurnItIn that we could put any paper into and tell the ratio written by AI and even if they used the sources they said they did.

https://www.turnitin.com/

This should be mandatory in every education system now.
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Renegade7 wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 1:35 pm
When I was teaching at my Alma mater we had a tool called TurnItIn that we could put any paper into and tell the ratio written by AI and even if they used the sources they said they did.

https://www.turnitin.com/

This should be mandatory in every education system now.
I had to use this when going from my Masters degree. I agree, this is a very effective tool.
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Renegade7 wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 1:35 pm
When I was teaching at my Alma mater we had a tool called TurnItIn that we could put any paper into and tell the ratio written by AI and even if they used the sources they said they did.

https://www.turnitin.com/

This should be mandatory in every education system now.
Now the race to beat it’s detection capabilities begins
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SWIM wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 5:48 pm
Renegade7 wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 1:35 pm
When I was teaching at my Alma mater we had a tool called TurnItIn that we could put any paper into and tell the ratio written by AI and even if they used the sources they said they did.

https://www.turnitin.com/

This should be mandatory in every education system now.
Now the race to beat it’s detection capabilities begins
AI is more of an equalizer then I believe some people realize.

We were talking about this other day at work...the hackers we have to worry about are jus flat out smarter then most of us, there's no nice way to say that.

But if they have access to AI tools to make "them smarter" and we have access to AI tools to "catch up with or stay ahead of them"... the hand over fist cat and mouse game becomes less about who's smarter if the AI tool is smarter then all of us.
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Well now you can read imaginary books from an AI generated summer reading list:

Newspaper's Summer Reading List Has Fake Books Because A.I.

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An image of a page from the Chicago Sun Times titled, "Summer reading list for 2025" with an image of a woman sitting on a porch, perhaps, beside a body of water, reading...Only five of the fifteen books listed as titles you should read are actually real.

Brit Bennett doesn't have a book titled Hurricane Season.

Isabel Allende has no book named Tidewater Dreams.

The Last Algorithm by Andy Weir, The Collector's Piece by Taylor Jenkins Reid, Nightshade Market by Min Jin Lee, The Longest Day by Rumaan Alam, Boiling Point by Rebecca Makkai, Migrations by Maggie O'Farrell, The Rainmakers by Percival Everett, and Salt and Honey by Delia Owens are all books that DO NOT EXIST!!!

I'm afraid I've confirmed that The Philadelphia Inquirer ran the same "Heat Index" supplement that the Chicago Sun-Times did

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Renegade7 wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 1:35 pm
When I was teaching at my Alma mater we had a tool called TurnItIn that we could put any paper into and tell the ratio written by AI and even if they used the sources they said they did.

https://www.turnitin.com/

This should be mandatory in every education system now.
They'll just come out with a better AI to beat the detection system, then its a matter of who's better at cheating.

I believe most undergrad courses that used term papers (humanities courses mainly), should ditch it completely and base it on exams and/or timed writings. Maybe even go back to good old fashioned pen and paper or alternatively a very simple typewriter like appliance with no internet access.

Its a bit of a stretch that a even a very talented 19-year old is going to have some type of unique insights on Shakespeare, etc. This is even a tall order for most grad students

Back when I was an undergrad, I had a history course whose entire grade was based of a handful of timed writings. I believe we were allowed a page or two of notes.

For more advanced undergrad courses requiring extended research, just allow whatever tools you wish and base on honor system and maybe oral examination if the class size is small enough
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I'd take it further...get rid of homework entirely from senior year if undergrade all the way down to the bottom of grade school.

The only homework should be reading and studying at best, having time to digest the material instead of being overwhelmed jus trying to pass the class and other classes.

Practice and hands on should be done during class time so the teacher can be off assistance during working hours.

You are right, we are kinda missing the big picture here with AI impact on academia in that we should be overhauling it anyway.
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Renegade7 wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 8:54 pm
@DCSaints_fan

I'd take it further...get rid of homework entirely from senior year if undergrade all the way down to the bottom of grade school.

The only homework should be reading and studying at best, having time to digest the material instead of being overwhelmed jus trying to pass the class and other classes.

Practice and hands on should be done during class time so the teacher can be off assistance during working hours.

You are right, we are kinda missing the big picture here with AI impact on academia in that we should be overhauling it anyway.
Mostly there should be no required homework. Not daily or even weekly anyways. For longer term projects, e.g. for art and science, there should probably still be something you hand in for a grade. Especially for science labs, you can't have the AI do the experiments for you - at least not yet. They could write the lab report but there's no way around that - and that was mostly just regurgitating the data you collected and seeing how well it matched the results.

But I think there should also be assignments that you optionally hand in, as a demonstration you are attempting to learn the material. Not for a grade unless we want to count "effort", but for classes such as math and language where there is really no getting around repetition in order to demonstrate competence. It might take some people once or twice to commit the information to memory, others need it dozens of times. It would be useful feedback when it comes to quizzes/exams. Don't do the assignments and fail the exam, well now you know why. This should start in middle school, with increasing difficult ramp.
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