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Re: Living under Trump 2 aka Musk!!!

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:38 pm
by PleaseBlitz
TK wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:19 pm
PleaseBlitz wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 11:50 am
Curious as to whether PR wants independence. Mostly bc my neighbor is a Puerto Rican Trump supporter. He’s also about to lose his DoD job to thanks to POTUS. Hard to feel bad for him when he voted for, and loves, Trump.
The way it's going, he'll get deported :lol:
My policy is I won’t feel bad since he voted for it.

And a good chance Ill get better neighbors.

Re: Living under Trump 2 aka Musk!!!

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:44 pm
by skinsfan4128
TK wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:24 pm
🤣🤣🤣 How's that vote working for you Kentucky? With everything that fat orange fuck is doing to that country, they still don't want to get drunk on our shit. 🤣🤣🤣

HTTR!

Re: Living under Trump 2 aka Musk!!!

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:44 pm
by PleaseBlitz
One way ive heard it described is “you voted for Trump because you were afraid immigrants were going to take your job. Under Trump, one immigrant took all of your jobs.”

Re: Living under Trump 2 aka Musk!!!

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 11:53 pm
by China
Trump-loving Alaskans are paying the price—literally

Alaska is big and divorced from the contiguous 48 states. Three-fourths of the state’s communities, comprising as much as 25% of the state’s population, aren’t even on the state’s road system. As such, it is expensive to stock its grocery shelves. Americans may complain about high grocery prices, but Alaskans, in particular, face even bigger bills.

“As an example, [Mike Jones, an economics professor at the University of Alaska-Anchorage,] said a half gallon of milk that would cost about $2.80 in Anchorage or Fairbanks could cost about $6 in rural communities, particularly in the west and southwest,” according to The Shelby Report, which covers the supermarket industry. “Infant formula that would cost about $18 in Anchorage could cost up to $30 for the same size in the rural areas. A five-pound bag of rice, priced at $5 in Anchorage could cost closer to $15 in many rural communities.”

According to the St. Louis Federal Reserve, the U.S. city average for a gallon of whole milk is around $4. Half gallons aren’t half the cost; the math isn’t that simple. But generally speaking, and especially once you get out of the bigger Alaskan cities, groceries are extremely expensive.

In 2024, 55% of Alaska’s voters backed Donald Trump over Democratic candidate Kamala Harris, who received 41%.

In 2025, Trump decided to pick a fight with Canada for no logical reason at all. And the thing is, no matter how insulting Trump and his minions are toward Canada, our friends to the north are not powerless to deliver serious retaliatory pain.

Take British Columbia, the land gateway from the lower 48 states to Alaska, for example.

“British Columbia is hitting back at economic threats from the United States by introducing tools to impose fees on U.S. truck traffic travelling through the province on the way to Alaska,” reported the Canadian Broadcast Company. “Premier David Eby said the tolls may not be used, but warned that Canada needs to have tools available to fight the threat of tariffs coming from President Donald Trump until he backs down from his plans altogether.”

This action would come on top of already enacted provisions like “removing alcohol from Republican-leaning states from B.C. Liquor Store shelves, de-prioritizing U.S. contractors on government contract bids, and fast-tracking the process through which energy and resource projects are vetted for approval in order to improve the province's self-reliance and trade relationships with other nations,” according to the CBC.

In response, Alaska Gov. Mike Dunleavy, a Republican, victim-blamed Canada like an asshole.

“My hope is that the federal governments between our two great countries work out solutions to the tariff issues, and provincial and state governments refrain from making unilateral decisions that may have negative consequences that negatively impact discussions at the federal level as they find solutions,” he told the Alaska Beacon.

And a Republican Alaska lawmaker whose day job is trucking sounded the dire warning. “It’s going to be a big deal for two things,” he said to the Alaska Beacon. “Fresh produce—the vast majority of our fresh produce … for most of Alaska gets trucked up. The other major issue that I could see is with the oil industry. If you want to get something up here fast, you put it on a truck, not a barge.”

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Re: Living under Trump 2 aka Musk!!!

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 12:28 am
by China
Ranchers call for balanced immigration reform to meet Nebraska's ag labor needs

Nebraska’s governor pledges to work with the Trump administration to deport “criminals and terrorists” but some ranchers say deportations could create a void in agriculture when many are already short of help.

Cattlemen say good help is hard to find.

“Feeding, cleaning pens, walking pens, pulling sicks, processing, whatever it us,” Jerry Kuenning said.

USDA data shows only a third of farm workers were born in the country, the rest are immigrants. Some are naturalized citizens or having legal status but 42 percent are undocumented.

President-Elect Donald Trump vows to crack down at the border.

“We’re going to be closing the border, it’s going to be closed very strongly,” he said recently.

Speaking for himself and not any organization, Kuenning said he supports enforcing immigration laws and supports Trump on many policies but says this position could devastate agriculture.

“I'm of the opinion we'll create a real void if they're sent home,” he said. “Addressing that they need to be legal but problem is where's the line to go to be legal.”

Agriculture wants a seat at the table.

“I think everyone knows we need a workforce and agriculture uses a lot of workers from other countries. We need to make sure that discussion that ag is included and farmers and ranchers have adequate workers they need,” Jordan Dux of Nebraska Farm Bureau said.

Good help is tough to find and agriculture fuels Nebraska’s economy.

“Not just the packing plants, I'm not going to put the burden on them. Those of us in production agriculture whether that be feedlots, dairy barns, hog barns, chicken houses, yeah they've come from somewhere else,” Kuenning said.

For now he hopes policymakers find solutions that balance security with the needs of Nebraska farmers and ranchers.

“Why are they here? For a better life because somebody's providing a job,” he said.

We spoke with the staff of the Nebraska Cattlemen.

Association leaders say they support legal immigration and members would agree the system is flawed and needs to be reformed. If congress looks at H2A guest worker visas, those in the cattle sector say it needs to work year-round.

Governor Jim Pillen met with President Trump recently.

Members of the incoming administration say workforce enforcement is likely but it remains to be seen if that will include raids at agricultural employers.

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Re: Living under Trump 2 aka Musk!!!

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 7:40 am
by Emir of Schmoe
PeterMP wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:58 pm
Emir of Schmoe wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 4:16 pm
This, among 1,000 other things, is what baffles me about these idiots. History says, no, those jobs are never coming back.
I had a maga moron (my since retired dentist) try to tell me: The jobs and factories are coming back! No, dumbass, they are not coming back. You gave away those jobs in the 80s, 90s, 00s to tax breaks for companies to move overseas. I told him: You're old enough to remember when northern NJ was the pharma production capital of the world. Every major pharma company had a factory(ies) throughout that area. Guess what? You gave them tax breaks to move to Puerto Rico and other places outside of the US in the 80s. Those jobs are NEVER coming back!
I had a client - Eli Lilly - in the mid/late 90s. They had a product that was made in Indiana, then shipped to Kinsale (Ireland) for further processing and then sent to PR for tableting. Why? Cheaper than doing it all in the US. That was 30 years ago. Those jobs are gone.
You can bring them back, but Americans are going to pay more. Tariffs do cause jobs to come back, but at the cost of everybody paying more and hurting other industries by creating artificial increases in the demand for labor and by making down stream costs for supplies more.

Steel tariffs bring back steal jobs. But they also hurt US companies that use steel to make things that get exported. Those companies then have to pay more for steel and more for workers which normally means fewer exports. The net effect is normally your better off having US companies be able to buy steel cheap, make things, and then export it. Those tend to be the higher paying and more durable jobs. And what you've really done in the long term is hurt your economy by protecting low end jobs.

(In terms of this video, the guys an idiot. There's no reason to think maintenance of robots is going to be higher skill/paying job then building iphones. And then there's no reason to think that building iphones in China won't still be cheaper because the people mantaining the robots and build the factories will still make (and not just labor but environmental laws, etc.)

(And really, the situation is even more complex. One of the things that's happened is today China is a good source for skilled labor, but they are still easily connected to other countries where labor is still cheap (e.g Vietnam and Philippines). In theory, you could do something similar here with the US, Canada, Mexico, and down into Central America and the Caribbean. But that won't happen when you are threatening tariffs on Mexico and Canada and don't have a consistent/systematic message/plan. Biden was working on building a similar network as what we see in Asia:

https://www.reuters.com/technology/us-m ... 024-03-28/)
I didn’t realize steel jobs returned to the US. I was referring to the return of the shuttered plants/factories. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm going to assume the steel jobs that returned were to existing plants/mills. Essentially these sites were getting back the capacity they lost which returned the jobs? I could be wrong, but I don't think they were building new facilities.
I just don't believe industries that have moved overseas will return. The areas where they would build new plants/factories (typically rural) don't have the infrastructure to support them. Nor the labor. Textile production of the mid-1900s isn't returning in the foreseeable future. Those mills are gone. So are the pharma plants. And on and on. Even if they do, it's a long, long way away.
Thanks for the article - I need to check it out.

Re: Living under Trump 2 aka Musk!!!

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 8:37 am
by Renegade7
PleaseBlitz wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:44 pm
One way ive heard it described is “you voted for Trump because you were afraid immigrants were going to take your job. Under Trump, one immigrant took all of your jobs.”
In many interviews, I see people catching themselves that they voted to hurt other people but got hurt themselves...they jus try to explain it a different way without outright saying it...

Re: Living under Trump 2 aka Musk!!!

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 12:15 pm
by Darrell Green Fan
I look forward to more stories of Trump voters who have regret. Bonus points if they are Latino males. Fuck every one of those people, I hope they lose their jobs and are deported.

Re: Living under Trump 2 aka Musk!!!

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 12:31 pm
by Simmsy
Ok, I have two personal FAFO/Leopards stories that I got to witness personally. I was worried about posting too many details, but I doubt they would ever find their way here and put two and two together. So, here goes:

1. The first one is a friend who voted Trump three times, he doesn't believe a woman should ever be president. He's got the Trump flag, giant sign in the yard and has no idea what is actually going on in the world. I don't know where he gets his news from specifically, but he spouts out Fox News talking points.

Anywho, he has to deal with copper. Its the main ingredient for his business and Trump is officially messing with the price of copper. First of all, it comes from Mexico (his does at least) and he hasn't been able to get any copper as soon as he has been in the past. On top of that, the tariffs have also raised the price of copper by 75 cents a foot. When you have to buy thousands of feet of copper, thats several thousands dollars added to the price. Now, to make things even more fun, Trump going up and down with the tariffs, makes it impossible to be able to price new jobs. The copper has to be bought well before, especially now, when it takes longer to get. Its hard to price a job based off of what you may and may not have and at what price when it takes even longer to get to the destination.

He believes the tariffs are going to make things better, but he didn't want Trump to effect HIS business directly, doesn't care about anything else. Trump said it was going to get worse before it got better, I didn't bother to tell him things will not get better. He thought Trump calling Elizabeth Warren, "Pocahantas" was hilarious at the SOTU, by the way.

2. The second guy is my boss, we talked about Trump before the SOTU. I tried to tell him about Musk and stealing Social Security, etc, he doesn't care. He's stupid and doesn't know anything about policy and falls for all of the fake stories that Trump drops on him. At one point he even told me, very smugly that "Trump is president and there is nothing you can do about it". He said that "Musk sure does have them scrambling", so I told him his retirement accounts were going to disappear with the stock market as well. He tried to tell me the stock market was up, I told him to check his accounts...he admitted that he didn't.

The next week the SOTU speech came up, he liked that Trump called Warren "Pocahantas" (these people are so stupid), didn't know about transgenic mice and all the other lies. I once again told him that Musk was going to take his SS (he thinks he will get it in 4 years), he's going to take everything so he can blow up his rockets on the taxpayer dime. Several hours later, a SpaceX rocket blew up and I sent him the link, telling him that I'm never wrong.

Well, that must've hit a nerve, Friday he's calling his account wondering about his accounts. Randomly talking about "How does Pelosi have all this money on her salary, she's worth millions?" and calling Democrats crooks. Well, I was trying to eavesdrop and I caught two main things: His accounts made $30k over the last two years (under Biden) and right now they're down a few percentage points for the year (or projected). Anyways, whatever he was told, was not good. He said "Its probably because of whats going on, huh?", meaning Trump being a dumbass. Once he heard that, from someone who isn't a black guy or a liberal, it became fact. He became quiet and wanting to move the goalpost like all Trumpers do...he'll be moving his goalposts deep into the red.

Let them lose their shirts, I'm just here to laugh at this point.

Re: Living under Trump 2 aka Musk!!!

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 1:35 pm
by Renegade7
I don't find any of this funny.

Dems should be holding town halls where GOP refuses to.

This energy needs to be redirected towards the polls, not each other.