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Old news, but I keep thinking of how big a deal it may be in terms of dulling our new found faith and belief in this f.o. and coaching staff if our two biggest FA moves don't pan out.

The Kinlaw deal is def the one that most analysts have the strongest criticisms of, especially considering how he floundered at the Jets even with a strong supporting cast.

Kinlaw strongly declares he knows the team has stuck their neck out making him very well treated financially and how they've stated their unequivocal belief in him. He claims he's appropriately grateful, inspired, and motivated. He says he cares a great deal about the current negative perceptions of both his effort and talent as a player.

Deebo's case isn't as extreme a gamble, but still similar enough, given how numerous our needs are (imo).

This next season includes a harder schedule, some increasingly aging returning vets at key positions, and defenses with a lot more tape and experience re: JD. I also think we (finally) had a fair share of breaks to get as far as we did last year.

I see both the cowpies and the ignats to be better than last year. And the eagles may have lost key assistant coaches but boy that roster is still killer.

We need both our big FA moves (and I'd call them reaches in terms of capital invested, though deebo clearly less so than kinlaw) to fully deliver. 🤞🤞🤞

No faith is more vulnerable to doubt than the newfound variety lwe have now, after decades of consistent disappointment.
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The Commanders have gone outside the usual football development system for the latest addition to their roster.

The team announced the signing of T.J. Maguranyanga on Thursday. Maguranyanga, who is listed as a defensive end, is part of the NFL’s International Player Pathway program for the the 2025 season.

Maguranyanga is a rugby player from Zimbabwe who has played professionally in France. He was selected for the IPP program late last year and has been training at the IMG Academy in Florida along with other aspiring football players.
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Jumbo wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 6:44 pm
Old news, but I keep thinking of how big a deal it may be in terms of dulling our new found faith and belief in this f.o. and coaching staff if our two biggest FA moves don't pan out.

The Kinlaw deal is def the one that most analysts have the strongest criticisms of, especially considering how he floundered at the Jets even with a strong supporting cast.

Kinlaw strongly declares he knows the team has stuck their neck out making him very well treated financially and how they've stated their unequivocal belief in him. He claims he's appropriately grateful, inspired, and motivated. He says he cares a great deal about the current negative perceptions of both his effort and talent as a player.

Deebo's case isn't as extreme a gamble, but still similar enough, given how numerous our needs are (imo).

This next season includes a harder schedule, some increasingly aging returning vets at key positions, and defenses with a lot more tape and experience re: JD. I also think we (finally) had a fair share of breaks to get as far as we did last year.

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No faith is more vulnerable to doubt than the newfound variety lwe have now, after decades of consistent disappointment.
Agreed on what's riding on the FA signings.

I think Kinlaw will be a headscratcher until all of the tiles are rearranged, from what scheme to weak/strong side to who's beside him and behind him, and then we'll be able to see what the idea is.

When they moved Jamin to DE, you could almost hear the shoulder shrug when asked about it, be it DQ or AP. They knew it was his best shot and that he wasn't gonna have a great chance, but he was in the pantry when they moved in.

For Kinlaw, he was actively selected. I think that they wouldn't have gotten him had they not already known what they would do with him. As long as they don't play him like the Jets did, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

At least until OTA's are done in Madden.
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@NewCliche21 I'm also in the "whaaat???" camp re: Kinlaw. First and only major blunder (seemingly, to me) in this regime.

https://www.si.com/nfl/commanders/news/ ... nt-signing
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Put me in this camp as well. I'm pretty convinced Peters is still in love with the player from his college tape. Well 5 years in the league means more to me and this signing remains very concerning. Very happy to be wrong but not sure I will be.

I have the same reservations about Johnny Newton. I understand DL take time to develop but he had very little impact. I focused on him a lot for obvious reasons as I watch the games again and he is stood up at the LOS and got zero penetration on virtually every passing down.
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Now that the draft is over and we’ve signed undrafted free agents; are we done with player acquisition or will we sign a free agent to met a need not met, like Edge?
Still plenty of free agents out there, we could sign on a one year deal.
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Jumbo wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 6:44 pm
Old news, but I keep thinking of how big a deal it may be in terms of dulling our new found faith and belief in this f.o. and coaching staff if our two biggest FA moves don't pan out.

The Kinlaw deal is def the one that most analysts have the strongest criticisms of, especially considering how he floundered at the Jets even with a strong supporting cast.

Kinlaw strongly declares he knows the team has stuck their neck out making him very well treated financially and how they've stated their unequivocal belief in him. He claims he's appropriately grateful, inspired, and motivated. He says he cares a great deal about the current negative perceptions of both his effort and talent as a player.

Deebo's case isn't as extreme a gamble, but still similar enough, given how numerous our needs are (imo).

This next season includes a harder schedule, some increasingly aging returning vets at key positions, and defenses with a lot more tape and experience re: JD. I also think we (finally) had a fair share of breaks to get as far as we did last year.

I see both the cowpies and the ignats to be better than last year. And the eagles may have lost key assistant coaches but boy that roster is still killer.

We need both our big FA moves (and I'd call them reaches in terms of capital invested, though deebo clearly less so than kinlaw) to fully deliver. 🤞🤞🤞

No faith is more vulnerable to doubt than the newfound variety lwe have now, after decades of consistent disappointment.
I get the point. For me, he can get everything wrong this off season and it won't dull my faith in him.

He's already acheived three things that I was unsure if I'd see in my lifetime.

A. Franchise QB, not just a franchise QB but a dude who can rival Mahomes as the best in the game. And i do believe the stories that they liked Jayden over Caleb. He's right now looking brilliant on this. If Jayden stays healthy we likely are now finally as Todd McShay likes to say one of the big boy teams. We are a realistic SB team. We've not had that forever. That move likely has changed the fortune of this team for the next 15 years. I can talk to my kids about going to a SB someday soon without it sounding like a fairy tale.

B. Winning 12 games, something we haven't done since 1991. Championship game not since 1991.

C. We have an operation that is respected around the league as top notch. We are considered one of the best, classiest and most competent organizations versus a clown show. Peters is part of that, he's a classy dude, with big time pedigree, and helped make big hires including Quinn.

He helped turn around maybe the worst roster in the NFL to a team that was on the doorsteps of a SB. Many attribute Washington season as one of the best turnaround seasons in the NFL ever.

So having said that, here's how I feel about those transactions. And when it comes to trades and FA I am just as much a process guy than I am results considering FA and trades are almost as much crap shoots as the draft. You win some and you lose some.

A. Lattimore. Loved the trade because i loved the idea of going for it considering context that season. Forbes was a bust. St. Juste was comically bad. So why not? It didn't work out but I get the idea behind it. My issue with Lattimore is he doubled down and kept him. Now, he needs to be right. Because part of the charm of the deal for me is you can cut bait because there was no guaranteed money on the deal.

B. Deebo. This to me is a no brainer. Zero criticism from me even if he busts. Even if Deebo duplicates his "bad" season, he was still a YAC dynamo and better than anyone on our team on that front. 5th rounders have what like a 10% hit rate? Great trade IMO.

C. Kinlaw. Feels to me is that was the one where they overestimated the market. Teams tend to overpay when they strike on day 1. This team tends to hold back on day 1 and recognizes this dynamic. But it feels like they got hopped up on Kinlaw in the off season as a bargain deal, and then got spooked into paying more because i gather they heard of competiton. This is a rare lose for this FO IMO as to the process behind the move.
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