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Re: Living under Trump 2

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 9:19 am
by China
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Meanwhile...

Hear what voters who didn't vote for Harris because of Gaza are saying now

Dearborn, Michigan, is home to the largest concentration of Arab Americans in the US and many of them voted against Kamala Harris over Democrats' position on Palestinians and Gaza. CNN's Jason Carroll talks to voters about Trump's call for Palestinians not to return to Gaza.

Click on the link for the video

Re: Living under Trump 2

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 9:32 am
by China

Re: Living under Trump 2

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 10:28 am
by Doyler23
China wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 9:19 am
Meanwhile...

Hear what voters who didn't vote for Harris because of Gaza are saying now

Dearborn, Michigan, is home to the largest concentration of Arab Americans in the US and many of them voted against Kamala Harris over Democrats' position on Palestinians and Gaza. CNN's Jason Carroll talks to voters about Trump's call for Palestinians not to return to Gaza.

Click on the link for the video
The people in Gaza were begging Americans to vote for Harris. Begging.

Now Trump is going to let Israel do whatever they want and like most of his decisions, it won't end well.

Ah and also fuck Jill Stein.

Re: Living under Trump 2

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 10:39 am
by SWIM
China wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 8:49 pm
Judge issues nationwide injunction blocking Trump's bid to end birthright citizenship

A federal judge in Maryland has issued a nationwide preliminary injunction against President Donald Trump's executive order aimed at ending birthright citizenship.

U.S. District Judge Deborah Boardman heard arguments Wednesday over a request by five pregnant undocumented women to block Trump's Day-1 executive order seeking to redefine the meaning of the 14th Amendment to exclude the children of undocumented immigrants from birthright citizenship.

"The denial of the precious right to citizenship will cause irreparable harm," Judge Boardman said in handing down her order. "It has been said the right to U.S. citizenship is a right no less precious than life or liberty. If the court does not enjoin enforcement of the executive order, children subject to the order will be denied the rights and benefits of U.S. citizenship and their parents will face instability."

"A nationwide injunction is appropriate and necessary because it concerns citizenship," Judge Boardman said.

The ruling comes two weeks after a federal judge in Seattle criticized the Department of Justice for attempting to defend what he called a "blatantly unconstitutional" order and issued a temporary restraining order.

In her ruling, Judge Boardman said Trump's executive order "conflicts with the plain language of the 14th Amendment."

"The U.S. Supreme court has resoundingly rejected the president's interpretation of the citizenship clause," Boardman said. "In fact, no court has endorsed the president's interpretation, and this court will not be the first."

Click on the link for the full article
I am worried about this once it gets to the Supreme Court.

On the issue of birthright citizenship, I think perhaps it needs to be revisited because when the amendment was written people could t fly across the world in 17 hours. But it needs to be done via an amendment to the constituon.

But I’m worried the Supreme Court may agree to disregard something that is set in stone explicitly by an amendment because of their party affiliation. They’ve already set horribly precedence once regarding overturning decades of case law regarding roe/wade and I just think this will set another terrible precedent.

Re: Living under Trump 2

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:12 am
by Jumbo
Progressive caucus gave a strong and well presented "time to start fighting back with all we got" presser thus a.m.

The fact that today's gop IS NOW 100% maga for all intents and purposes means it wouldn't matter to them who on the Dem side was calling this rancid moronic vile monstrosity of an administration out for what it is.

It could be the most moderate Dems in Congress and their reaction would be the same. So blowing off messaging from progressives just cuz of that label is kind of pointless.

But them, or any other opposing faction, going to the mikes and making presentations isn't a waste, or pointless. It, and much more coming from all segments that oppose trumpland and maga world, is what's necessary. And needs to be constant from now on until this traitorous, foul, sick-minded, social disease is beat back and hopefully permanently crippled.

It's easy to take the view that "dems are powerless" or "they can't really do much if anything" but there's definitely no chance for non magas if no effort is made.

It's when things are at their worst that you need to go all out and keep going no matter what.

This admin and the election is a horrific indictment of a huge number of ignorant and malignant meat sacks. It springs from so much of the dark and ugly demographics, or segments, in our history.

As most eser's who posted in the old tailgate know, 'm not a Dem. I've registered as a true independent since my first vote in 72. I've often voted for gop candidates at any level if I thought they were the overall better choice in all ways for the specific situation and if their character seemed worthy enough.

But since I first saw McCain unwillingly saddled with a dumbass incompetent like palin I realized things were getting worse than ever on the gop side.

The yuge malignant moron population in the GOP has conquered the much smaller percentage of "old school" or "decent", "true" conservative Republicans. Sorry, but that party is now dominated by a disgusting pile of vermin.

As a group, they demonstrate no grasp of, or interest in, reality, facts, honesty, morals, history, science, education, compassion, cooperation, democracy, or other core tenets of a decent society. I'm not "religious" but they even pervert the already imperfect institution of christian religion to a disgusting level.

Their kkk/John Birch/ "heritage foundation" DNA is in full bloom. The battle can't be won by their opposition giving into fatigue or detachment.

Re: Living under Trump 2

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 2:46 pm
by The Sisko
Simmsy wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 4:15 pm
The Sisko wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 11:50 am
Simmsy wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 7:25 am


There is some use for reddit still...

https://www.reddit.com/r/LeopardsAteMyFace/
That’s been the subreddit that I’ve visited the most since the election. It only gets more fun with each passing day.
Its petty, but it keeps me sane.

So, I had an epiphany, but it seems like this has already been discovered while I was at work:

Basically, my boss is a trumper, not full on maga, but he's a Trumper. Eventually, our conversation went to Trump, I defended my views, but I targeted my anger and disdain to Elon. I told him what Elon is doing, what he plans to do, all of it. I left Trump out of it, he now hates Elon too. Looks like his popularity has drained quite a bit since I've gotten home.
Not just Apartheid Clyde. You also need to start asking about Tя☭mp’s policies that directly affect him and the business. Show no irritation or rancor, just like you’re discussing the weather or something. Then stand back and wait for it to fester. If it doesn’t work, you can still laugh at him and enjoy his misfortune later.😃😃
SWIM wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 10:39 am
China wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 8:49 pm
Judge issues nationwide injunction blocking Trump's bid to end birthright citizenship

A federal judge in Maryland has issued a nationwide preliminary injunction against President Donald Trump's executive order aimed at ending birthright citizenship.

U.S. District Judge Deborah Boardman heard arguments Wednesday over a request by five pregnant undocumented women to block Trump's Day-1 executive order seeking to redefine the meaning of the 14th Amendment to exclude the children of undocumented immigrants from birthright citizenship.

"The denial of the precious right to citizenship will cause irreparable harm," Judge Boardman said in handing down her order. "It has been said the right to U.S. citizenship is a right no less precious than life or liberty. If the court does not enjoin enforcement of the executive order, children subject to the order will be denied the rights and benefits of U.S. citizenship and their parents will face instability."

"A nationwide injunction is appropriate and necessary because it concerns citizenship," Judge Boardman said.

The ruling comes two weeks after a federal judge in Seattle criticized the Department of Justice for attempting to defend what he called a "blatantly unconstitutional" order and issued a temporary restraining order.

In her ruling, Judge Boardman said Trump's executive order "conflicts with the plain language of the 14th Amendment."

"The U.S. Supreme court has resoundingly rejected the president's interpretation of the citizenship clause," Boardman said. "In fact, no court has endorsed the president's interpretation, and this court will not be the first."

Click on the link for the full article
I am worried about this once it gets to the Supreme Court.

On the issue of birthright citizenship, I think perhaps it needs to be revisited because when the amendment was written people could t fly across the world in 17 hours. But it needs to be done via an amendment to the constituon.

But I’m worried the Supreme Court may agree to disregard something that is set in stone explicitly by an amendment because of their party affiliation. They’ve already set horribly precedence once regarding overturning decades of case law regarding roe/wade and I just think this will set another terrible precedent.
I’m not worried. I fully expect this stinking, fetid excuse for a SCOTUS to reverse the prior decision and let this go into effect. “Constitution, we don’t need no stinkin’ constitution!” If there’s ever another fair election, I’d expect all who vote in favor of this to be impeached and replaced. ..and it damn well better be reliable left wing judges no older than 10 years of age.

Re: Living under Trump 2

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:05 pm
by Simmsy
The Sisko wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 2:46 pm
Simmsy wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 4:15 pm
The Sisko wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 11:50 am

That’s been the subreddit that I’ve visited the most since the election. It only gets more fun with each passing day.
Its petty, but it keeps me sane.

So, I had an epiphany, but it seems like this has already been discovered while I was at work:

Basically, my boss is a trumper, not full on maga, but he's a Trumper. Eventually, our conversation went to Trump, I defended my views, but I targeted my anger and disdain to Elon. I told him what Elon is doing, what he plans to do, all of it. I left Trump out of it, he now hates Elon too. Looks like his popularity has drained quite a bit since I've gotten home.
Not just Apartheid Clyde. You also need to start asking about Tя☭mp’s policies that directly affect him and the business. Show no irritation or rancor, just like you’re discussing the weather or something. Then stand back and wait for it to fester. If it doesn’t work, you can still laugh at him and enjoy his misfortune later.😃😃
SWIM wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 10:39 am
China wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 8:49 pm
Judge issues nationwide injunction blocking Trump's bid to end birthright citizenship

A federal judge in Maryland has issued a nationwide preliminary injunction against President Donald Trump's executive order aimed at ending birthright citizenship.

U.S. District Judge Deborah Boardman heard arguments Wednesday over a request by five pregnant undocumented women to block Trump's Day-1 executive order seeking to redefine the meaning of the 14th Amendment to exclude the children of undocumented immigrants from birthright citizenship.

"The denial of the precious right to citizenship will cause irreparable harm," Judge Boardman said in handing down her order. "It has been said the right to U.S. citizenship is a right no less precious than life or liberty. If the court does not enjoin enforcement of the executive order, children subject to the order will be denied the rights and benefits of U.S. citizenship and their parents will face instability."

"A nationwide injunction is appropriate and necessary because it concerns citizenship," Judge Boardman said.

The ruling comes two weeks after a federal judge in Seattle criticized the Department of Justice for attempting to defend what he called a "blatantly unconstitutional" order and issued a temporary restraining order.

In her ruling, Judge Boardman said Trump's executive order "conflicts with the plain language of the 14th Amendment."

"The U.S. Supreme court has resoundingly rejected the president's interpretation of the citizenship clause," Boardman said. "In fact, no court has endorsed the president's interpretation, and this court will not be the first."

Click on the link for the full article
I am worried about this once it gets to the Supreme Court.

On the issue of birthright citizenship, I think perhaps it needs to be revisited because when the amendment was written people could t fly across the world in 17 hours. But it needs to be done via an amendment to the constituon.

But I’m worried the Supreme Court may agree to disregard something that is set in stone explicitly by an amendment because of their party affiliation. They’ve already set horribly precedence once regarding overturning decades of case law regarding roe/wade and I just think this will set another terrible precedent.
I’m not worried. I fully expect this stinking, fetid excuse for a SCOTUS to reverse the prior decision and let this go into effect. “Constitution, we don’t need no stinkin’ constitution!” If there’s ever another fair election, I’d expect all who vote in favor of this to be impeached and replaced. ..and it damn well better be reliable left wing judges no older than 10 years of age.
My boss is an idiot, he doesn't know the policies or how they work to even put up a valid argument. You know what its like, when someone tries to debate you and you have to correct and educate them while they try to argue against you. It really seems like you're arguing with yourself, these a very stupid people. The Elon thing is pretty simple and Elon is too stupid and arrogant for nuance, this won't go away.

He did say gas will be down in 6 months, that was two weeks ago. We haven't been back to that same gas station that I took note of the gas price, but I'm sure its gone up already.

Also, forget about the SCOTUS, they're a big reason we're in this mess. Don't think that they put us here so they could turn around and save us. The moderates aren't going to save us, the Ernst and the Collins aren't going to save us, we have to save ourselves. When the courts tell Elon to stop and he doesn't (and he won't), we'll have to do it ourselves. I think violence is on the horizon, if so, Elon may be on the top of a lot of people’s lists.

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Re: Living under Trump 2

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 5:46 pm
by China
Trump dumped these farmers’ water. They’d rather not talk about it.

California farmers — some of President Donald Trump’s staunchest supporters in the deep blue state — are sticking with him, even after he wasted their water.

At least publicly, the farmers and their Republican allies are brushing off the president’s abrupt move last week to dump more than 2 billion gallons of their irrigation water from reservoirs in the name of aiding Los Angeles wildfires — even though the fires were already contained and the water couldn’t have made it to Los Angeles anyway.

Zack Stuller, a farmer with citrus and almond orchards he irrigates from the reservoirs and president of the Tulare County Farm Bureau in the state’s arid Central Valley, said the situation “definitely was a little nerve-wracking for a while.”


But, he said, “I’m a farmer. I have a conservative mindset. I encourage the trigger-pulling attitude, like, ‘Hey, let’s just get stuff done.’”

The episode is one of the most visceral examples of a recurring theme for Trump and his most loyal supporters who’ve stuck with him through sweeping actions in the first weeks of his presidency that could hurt their bottom lines, be it the deportation of workers or expensive tariffs.

The debacle is especially ironic because dumping California farmers’ water is the very thing Trump has been attacking Newsom over for years, exploiting a deep partisan vein that separates the Central Valley from the Democrat-dominated coast. He picked up their refrain in 2016, echoing the bitter signs that still dot the I-5 targeting Democratic politicians for causing water shortages, remnants of the water wars of the 1990s that inflamed the state’s fish-versus-farms dynamic.

“I heard the governor say you get 50 gallons,” Trump said at a rally in Bakersfield, on the southern end of the valley, in February 2020, during the state’s last drought. “Fifty gallons is very, very little. Can you imagine a state being rationed when you have millions and millions and millions of gallons being poured out into the Pacific Ocean?”

While California’s reservoirs are in good shape overall, the state is heading back into drought because of a dry winter so far. Greg Meister, the mayor of Porterville, the closest town to the Army Corps’ dams, said he was most concerned that the releases would chip away at supplies local farmers will end up needing later in the year.

“The fear is, just because we’re heavily dependent on that water during the summer for agriculture, what the impacts may be,” Meister said. “I’ve heard predictions of it not being a very wet winter.”

The administration initially moved to pour out even more water from the dams, a gush that Hernandez, the local water manager, said could have flooded farms, maintenance equipment and potentially homeless encampments near the river. He said he only got a one-hour heads up from the Army Corps of Engineers, the agency that manages the dams for flood control, and scrambled to alert downstream farmers.

Click on the link for the full article

Re: Living under Trump 2

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 5:53 pm
by Jumbo
As Galaxy Quest so wisely instructed, "Never give up, never surrender!" 😁🗽


https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/05/politics ... index.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/06/us/f ... nship.html

Re: Living under Trump 2

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 6:00 pm
by China
Judge Delays Program Offering Federal Workers Incentives to Quit

A federal judge in Massachusetts barred the Trump administration on Thursday from imposing a midnight deadline on federal workers who were offered the chance to take a deferred resignation, pausing the initiative until a hearing on Monday afternoon.

The offer, which had been set to expire at 11:59 p.m. on Thursday, is part of a sweeping effort by President Trump and the billionaire Elon Musk to drastically cut the size of the federal government.

Judge George A. O’Toole Jr. stopped the Office of Personnel Management from carrying out the program, which had been detailed in an email sent to roughly two million federal workers last week, until a hearing scheduled for Monday afternoon.

The “Fork in the Road” plan offered federal workers the chance to resign and be paid through the end of September. Labor unions had challenged the legality of the program and urged employees not to accept the offer.

“I enjoin the defendants from taking action to implement the so-called Fork directive, pending the completion of briefing and oral argument on the issues,” the judge said.

It remains unclear how the pause will affect tens of thousands of federal employees who had already signed up to resign through the program.

But Judge O’Toole instructed lawyers representing the government to rapidly contact all employees who had received the offer updating them about the pause.

Terms of the buyout plan, including draft contracts, have been distributed to employees throughout an array of agencies this week. Staff across the Departments of Education and Labor were briefed earlier in the week about the buyout. And employees in the C.I.A. who were previously exempted along with other national-security-related agencies, were also told on Tuesday that they had become eligible to participate.

Hundreds of employees at other agencies, including the Environmental Protection Agency, who are working on probationary status or had been put on administrative leave for helping administer diversity programs, were told they could be fired imminently, causing many to weigh whether they would be best served by accepting the buyout.

But the vague conditions and uncertain legality of the offer also led to considerable consternation as employees struggled to understand what protections it actually afforded.

Employees at the Education Department were told explicitly on Wednesday that even if they accepted the agreement they were shown, they could still be fired on Friday after having already waived any rights to sue or recover the seven months of salaries promised.

On Thursday morning, employees at the General Services Administration were still navigating conflicting information while bracing for the midnight deadline. While some G.S.A. workers got word that the deadline to confirm their resignations had been moved up to noon — according to a message seen by The New York Times — others received various emails about the impending deadline.

Early on Thursday morning, employees at various federal agencies received an email from the Office of Personnel Management reminding them about the upcoming deadline.

“There will NOT be an extension of this program,” the email read.

More than 40,000 federal workers have accepted the offer, Karoline Leavitt, the White House press secretary, told reporters on Thursday as the judge’s ruling was being issued. She said the number was expected to increase. “We encourage federal workers in this city to accept the very generous offer,” she said, adding, “We’ll find highly competent individuals who want to fill these roles.”

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