Anti-Vaxxer Thread

[Emir of Schmoe]

even rfk jr who was staunchly anti vax wants people to get vaccinated against this measles shit

good

RFK Jr. touts vitamin A and cod liver oil as another death is reported in growing measles outbreak. Health experts warn the move is ‘misleading the public’

When U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. recently wrote that vitamin A “can dramatically reduce measles mortality,” he was remarking on what happens after someone gets infected, not before.

Kennedy knows, as he wrote in that same op-ed, that what actually prevents measles is a vaccine. Yet Kennedy, in discussing the fatal measles outbreak in West Texas, has been quick to de-emphasize that fact, instead telling Fox News that health officials in Texas “are getting very, very good results” with patients by using cod liver oil, which he said had high concentrations of vitamin A and vitamin D, along with an antibiotic called clarithromycin and a steroid, budesonide.

The secretary and longtime vaccine skeptic was referring to people who’d already become sick with the deadly virus—not as a prevention measure. But his word choice could easily confuse that issue, experts say. And at a time when exactitude feels crucial, with a second death in the growing U.S. outbreak reported Thursday, that is a point of tremendous concern.

“I think what he's doing as Secretary of Health and Human Services, as the head of the nation's largest public health agency, is misleading the public about vaccines and about treatments for measles at a time when there's a measles outbreak,” says Paul Offit, director of the Vaccine Education Center at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia.

“With measles, there's a way to prevent it: vaccines,” Offit says. “It would be nice if [Kennedy] was clear and definitive and straightforward that vaccines were the single best way to prevent measles.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/rfk-jr-touts ... 09971.html

[China]

Surely ivermectin will work, right?

[China]

Texas cities run short of MMR vaccine as measles outbreak drives demand

As measles cases continue to grow in Texas and New Mexico, with a second death, an unvaccinated adult, reported on Thursday, some Texas cities are seeing shortages amid soaring demand for the highly effective vaccine and as the top US health official, Robert F Kennedy Jr, sows disinformation and mistrust about vaccines.

Ann and Paul Clancy were picking up medications at their local Walgreens in Austin, Texas, on Wednesday and decided to ask the pharmacist about getting the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine.

The pharmacist said that they were “totally out, and she didn’t know exactly when they would be getting more”, Ann said.

The Clancys wanted to get vaccinated because they have followed the outbreak in the news, including the first measles case detected in Austin last week – an unvaccinated infant who had traveled recently and was not considered part of the wider outbreak of cases.

In addition to keeping themselves safe, the Clancys want to protect their grandchildren and family members with health vulnerabilities.

The pharmacist also mentioned that even doctors’ offices were “having a hard time keeping enough vaccines for kids who needed them”, Ann said.

There are now 198 known cases, 23 hospitalizations and one death from measles in Texas, and 30 known cases and one death in New Mexico.

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[Spaceman Spiff]

Well the antivaxxers are already blaming the measles vaccine for the outbreak in Texas. Right now, we really do live in the stupidest timeline where people actually believe vaccines cause the sickness they are supposed to offer protection from.

Until we hit the full finding out stage of FAFO, say a few thousand or more kids dead, people will continue on being part the dumbest generation cult. And tbh, since we saw a million plus Americans die of covid and no one fucking cared, I'm not even sure 1-2k or more kids dieing from something as easily prevented as measles would move the needle much.

The MAGA idiots are never going to accept blame for anything. FAFO doesn't apply to them, it applies to everyone else but them.

The party of "personal responsibility" is anything but that.

[China]

Now it's spreading here:

Measles case confirmed in Howard Co. resident who passed through Dulles

A positive measles case has been found in a Howard County resident who traveled internationally through Dulles International Airport, said the Maryland and Virginia health departments.

The local health departments announced the case Sunday and said they’re looking to find anyone who might have come in contact with the virus.

The agencies warned travelers who passed through the international area of Terminal A at Dulles on March 5 between 4 p.m. and 9 p.m. about the potential exposure. People traveling on transportation to the main terminal and at the baggage claim may have been exposed.

The Maryland Department of Health also warned of possible exposure for anyone who visited the Johns Hopkins Howard County Medical Center Pediatric Emergency Department in Columbia on March 7 between 3:30 p.m. and 7:30 p.m.

The Howard County case isn’t associated with the outbreak in Texas and New Mexico, the Maryland agency said.

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[The Evil Genius]

Shouldn't be a surprise, measles is so contagious that you can get it from the air up to 2 hours after an infected person has been in the room. And around 90% of non vaccinated people get it when they come in contact with someone with measles.

[PleaseBlitz]

Shouldn't be a surprise, measles is so contagious that you can get it from the air up to 2 hours after an infected person has been in the room. And around 90% of non vaccinated people get it when they come in contact with someone with measles.

Neither surprising nor upsetting.

[Emir of Schmoe]

**John Candy - Oh, sure, sure**

Health dept. head claims getting measles is good thing: 'Gives you lifetime of protection'


Health and Human Services Director Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who has stopped short of recommending Americans be vaccinated against measles, is now suggesting everyone should get the virus to build up their immunity.

"It used to be, when I were a kid, that everybody got measles. And the measles gave you lifetime protection against measles infection,” Kennedy told Fox News' Sean Hannity as reported in The Daily Beast. “The vaccine doesn’t do that. The vaccine is effective for some people for life, but for many people it wanes.”

https://www.rawstory.com/kennedy-measles-good-thing/

[China]

US measles outlook is so bad health experts call for updating vaccine guidance

With measles declared eliminated from the US in 2000 and national herd immunity strong, health experts have recommended that American children get two doses of the Measles, Mumps, and Rubella (MMR) vaccine—the first between the ages of 12 and 15 months and the second between the ages of 4 and 6 years, before they start school.

Before 12 months, vulnerable infants in the US have been protected in part by maternal antibodies early in infancy as well as the immunity of the people surrounding them. But if they travel to a place where population immunity is unreliable, experts recommend that infants ages 6 to 11 months get an early dose—then follow it up with the standard two doses at the standard times, bringing the total to three doses.

The reason they would need three—and the reason experts typically recommend waiting until 12 months—is because the maternal antibodies infants carry can interfere with the vaccine response, preventing the immune system from mounting long-lasting protection. Still, the early dose provides boosted protection in that 6-to-11-month interval.

In the past, this early, extra dose was recommended for infants traveling internationally—to countries that hadn't achieved America's enviable level of herd immunity and were vulnerable to outbreaks. But now, with US vaccination rates slipping, herd immunity becoming spotty, cases rising by the day, and outbreaks simmering in multiple states, the US is no longer different from far-off places that struggle with the extremely infectious virus.

In an article published today in JAMA, prominent health experts—including former Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Rochelle Walensky—call for the US to update its MMR recommendations to include the early, extra dose for infants who are not only traveling abroad, but domestically, to any areas where measles is a concern.

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[The Evil Genius]

Texas has 259 recorded cases this years of measles.

Only 2 of them were vaccinated.

So 257/259 is 99.23%.