The Evil Genius wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 7:36 pm
I'll agree to disagree. No way the Dubs make it to or even through the play-in or even win the first round against Houston without Butler. They were 11th at the time of the trade and fading fast. The team instantly became better defensively, better at FTs (both attempts and makes), and just better offensively when they replaced Wiggins with Butler.
It sucks that Steph getting hurt in Game 1 against the Wolves has changed some national media people's opinion of the trade, but the Dubs are infinitely a better team with Butler being #2 to Steph. Steph doesn't get hurt, and they somehow win that Minny series, are we having this discussion about Jimmy?
This offseason, if they move Kuminga and/or Podz then they might be able to add another key player to give them another 1 or 2 year run with Steph. I mean, I like Kuminga but he doesn't seem to care much about defense or rebounds or even passing the ball, which doesn't fit the system he's in. Podz is another story. I know the Dubs want to hold on to him but I think there is legit interest in him by other teams. He might be whats needed in a trade to get that guy they need.
Fundamentally we disagree on how to rebuild the warriors and I don't see the Warriors as contenders with Jimmy.
Because I don't see the warriors as contenders, i believe they should trade Steph and rebuild. It makes the most sense since the Warriors do not have any valuable trade assets. The last trade asset, Myers traded Poole for essentially a 1 year rental of CP3. Terrible as move.
I don't see the value in being a 6 seed and being in the play in every year. Thats the kind of stuff the Wizards did with john wall and Bradley Beal and it got them nowhere.
Also, our perception of the Houston series is wildly different. I do not understand how anyone could watch that series and think the Warriors are contenders. Jalen Green went from being a 25 ppg to 13 ppg on 30% from the field. He was so tragic, it is embarrassing it took 7 games.
Steph's injury was not a freak injury, it was due to wearing down from carrying this roster. If Jimmy was what people claim he is then steph would have not have to carry such a burden.
Jimmy hasn't played a full season in two years. He never was durable and so getting rid of depth for him was a double edge sword, he needed to be a superstar and he was nowhere near that in the playoffs.
I personally don't think other teams see Pod as valuable and why would they? He was awful, terrible shooting percentages in the playoffs. He had a good game 5 but it was too late.
I don't know about Kuminga, I could see teams trading for him but not for something that is going to make a difference with an aging roster.
Also, I think the Wolves win that series no matter what, they had better depth everywhere. Julius Randle made Draymond bbq and Draymond is suppose to be the defensive stopper. Everyone was getting their shit pushed in by Rudy. Rudy destroyed the warriors in the paint. Just wrecked them, absolutely destroyed the Warriors at the rim. Jimmy couldn't score on anyone but Donte (who was awful). The Wolves were also so bad with turnovers.
Do you realize how bad the Wolves role players shot the ball and they still beat the warriors in 5. Seriously, go look at NAW, Conley, and Donte overall shooting splits against the Warriors. It was so bad. They finally hit their shots in game 5 and that game was blown wide open.
In a different universe, the Warriors trade Steph to the Cavs (LOL) Cavs, Steph wins his 5th ring and the warriors draft Flagg.
Regardless, #FreeSteph
more people to do it next.
