The 2025 NFL Draft Thread
Not sure about the grade (I think maybe an A) but this is what it looks like:88Commanders00 wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:08 pmSince we used some of our picks to trade for vets; how they do will go towards grading this draft.
Final 2025 Draft Class!
Rd. 1 - Josh Conerly Jr. OT
Rd. 2 - Trey Amos CB
Rd. 3 - Marshon Lattimore CB
Rd. 3 - Laremy Tunsil OT
Rd. 4 - Jaylin Lane WR
Rd. 5 - Deebo Samuel WR
Rd. 6 - Kain Medrano LB
Rd. 7 - Jacory Croskey-Merritt RB
Wow, I like looking at it like this.zSkins wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 6:19 pmNot sure about the grade (I think maybe an A) but this is what it looks like:88Commanders00 wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:08 pmSince we used some of our picks to trade for vets; how they do will go towards grading this draft.
Final 2025 Draft Class!
Rd. 1 - Josh Conerly Jr. OT
Rd. 2 - Trey Amos CB
Rd. 3 - Marshon Lattimore CB
Rd. 3 - Laremy Tunsil OT
Rd. 4 - Jaylin Lane WR
Rd. 5 - Deebo Samuel WR
Rd. 6 - Kain Medrano LB
Rd. 7 - Jacory Croskey-Merritt RB
AP cooked. Again.
B+ sounds about right, we couldn't solve all needs in this draft, and what's more until we see a couple pieces on the field we don't know if they were good picks
Peters' surprise many of us with his picks. Then when one you look at the individual more closely you understand the pick. Might not be the top rated player on the draft head boards but have attributes that fit with the commanders. It will be interesting, they are one edge from one heck of a run next year.
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Last year, I spent a lot of time on the QBs. This time it was RBs. I posted on here on day 3 about Croskey-Merritt hours before we took him.Jumbo wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 12:09 pm@skinsinparadise
Brian Baldinger (one of my fave nfl media guys) just gushed all over one of our mutual draft crushes---Skattebo. He really loves the guy. It will be fun to see how he shows up this season.
I think he's going to be a good one. Freakish athleticism, 1.5 -10. 4.45 40. The best vertical in this group.
Slippery runner. Stop and go. Contact balance. Good pass protector. Can take it to the house. It took some effort for me to watch him, I had to go through New Mexico games which wasn't fun. But I took the time partly because I knew this team had interest. He was another dude who was at the Top Golf event.
Fell likely because he barely played last season because he discovered he was ineligible.
I was a big RJ Harvey guy and he went earlier than expected in spite of his age. I am not fixated on age. I want a SB in the next couple of years. So if the RB has just a three year run Alfred Morris style, I can live with that.
If dudes like @The Consigliere want some analytics-dynasty love for him. Mike Renner, formerly from Football Outsiders is a big fan. Ditto J. Gibbs who is a RB dynasty guy who Fusue likes to quote.
Sam Monson from PFF really high on our draft.
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Peters was smart in drafting OT and CB early. We took them just as there was gonna be big drop offs in talent. After Connoly the last high echelon T left was Simmons and both would be gone pretty much instantly (everyone knew KC was going OT). After Amos the last good CB left was Revel (like Simmons he was also coming off injury). Instead of reaching for needs we took shots at guys who are much more talented and at premium positions to boot.
My only knock is not being able to get an Edge out of a stacked Edge class, but the board just didn't play out in that favor. Again, can't reach for need. Take talent and figure it out later.
My only knock is not being able to get an Edge out of a stacked Edge class, but the board just didn't play out in that favor. Again, can't reach for need. Take talent and figure it out later.
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As we know grades are meaningless. All it means of course is what would name that draft media guy do if he were the GM of Washington.
My biggest takeaway is they had two glaring weakness that could have derailed the season IMO -- CB, and O line. and in theory they fixed them both.
D Line is the only weakness on the team now IMO.
They inherited a crap roster from Ron. I never thought Ron would make Vinny and Bruce look like geniuses in comparison but he did IMO. The team went to the championship game in season 1, with if I recall over 50% turnover which is insane. So they earned the benefit of the doubt.
i wish they did more at RB but it might be enough. I like Croskey-Merritt. I know he's a 7th rounder. But heck that's the position where late rounders have done well in plenty of spots including our team years ago with 6th rounder Alfred Morris. Also hopefully the O line upgrades help the running game, too.
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I wouldn't call them weaknesses, but WR, RB, TE, and LB are all below average areas of the team, with room for huge improvement.
TE has the potential to get good because of Sinnott, but we don't really know which way that's going to go yet. I think we do know that WR, RB, and LB are all much more likely to degrade than improve over time. Deebo was a significant short term addition, but he's really just a patch on an otherwise low-end group group of weapons. Better long term outlook than Ekeler and Ertz, but not by a whole lot. Ekeler and Ertz needed to be replaced this offseason, as did Wagner, but the opportunity to do that in a cost effective way didn't really emerge.
I'm happy with the build-work Peters did because I'm taking the rosy view and hoping that the secondary and OL are going to be legit strengths next year. But we have taken a ton of risks with the trades and signings we made. Deebo and Lattimore could easily be way past their good years and look like bad trades. And I love the Tunsil deal on paper, but I'm not going to lie, it worries me that a franchise LT has already been traded twice by the time he's hit his prime years. Not just that, we drafted his replacement the first opportunity to do so after acquiring him. There is obviously something wrong with the dude's character/mental approach. Rumors about him skipping meetings/showing up late to practices. The constant penalties. Dropping in the draft for smoking weed with a gas mask. He's got some knucklehead in him and he's not going to change. This trade looks great if he spends the next three or four seasons kicking ass with us, but it looks terrible if we don't get at least two good years out of him.
Conerly is really the key to the offseason long term. If he ends up becoming a stud LT who is a special guy and a core to our build long term, then this offseason will be remembered as pretty good work.
But for us to reach the level that the Eagles are at, Peters needs to hit a fuckin no doubter home run off-season and get like four true studs out of a draft class, and this off-season was not that.