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Wonder if we allow Texas to be independent, how much we save?China wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 9:43 amTrump pressured to make Puerto Rico independent to save America $617 billion
Donald Trump is being lobbied to make Puerto Rico an independent nation and save American taxpayers $617.8 billion, DailyMail.com has learned.
At least two congressional offices are in possession of a seven-page draft 'executive order' on how the U.S. can help the island territory transition to independence.
One individual familiar with the document's origins said at least two members of Congress have a copy of the draft, which DailyMail.com has obtained and reviewed.
A source familiar with the document's existence disclosed that it is also in the possession of Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles, Rep. Tom McClintock (R-Calif.) and potentially other Cabinet secretaries.
Staffers for the Senate Energy & Natural Resources Committee and a staffer for Rep. Tom Kean (R-N.J.) have already held or scheduled meetings about the draft executive order.
The committee has jurisdiction over issues relating to Puerto Rico and other U.S. territories. But committee officials did not reply to a request for comment.
The order appears to have been drawn up by a congressional office and leaders of Puerto Rico secessionist efforts, and not the White House.
But it is a clear effort to apply pressure on the White House to transition Puerto Rico out of its current status as a U.S. territory.
Trump has not indicated that he wants to rid the U.S. of the territory.
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Puerto Rico would be better off, than being under Trump's dictatorship.
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This, among 1,000 other things, is what baffles me about these idiots. History says, no, those jobs are never coming back.
I had a maga moron (my since retired dentist) try to tell me: The jobs and factories are coming back! No, dumbass, they are not coming back. You gave away those jobs in the 80s, 90s, 00s to tax breaks for companies to move overseas. I told him: You're old enough to remember when northern NJ was the pharma production capital of the world. Every major pharma company had a factory(ies) throughout that area. Guess what? You gave them tax breaks to move to Puerto Rico and other places outside of the US in the 80s. Those jobs are NEVER coming back!
I had a client - Eli Lilly - in the mid/late 90s. They had a product that was made in Indiana, then shipped to Kinsale (Ireland) for further processing and then sent to PR for tableting. Why? Cheaper than doing it all in the US. That was 30 years ago. Those jobs are gone.
We need more of this:
They voted for Trump in 2024. Months later, his administration fired them
Michael Graugnard said he voted for President Donald Trump in the 2024 election because he felt Trump was the best candidate to improve the economy.
But three months into his new role as an attorney advisor for the US Department of Agriculture, Graugnard was laid off along with thousands of other federal employees. The termination, Graugnard said, came as a surprise given his managers had assured him his job was safe.
“I was devastated,” Graugnard told CNN, adding this was his dream job and he had just moved to Little Rock, Arkansas, with his pregnant wife and toddler for the position. “I was expecting to spend the rest of my life doing it.”
Graugnard is among many federal workers who lost their jobs three months after casting their ballot for Trump. Former federal employees told CNN they believed Trump’s policies aligned with their values and would improve their lives, but now they have been left scrambling to find work.
The mass layoffs are part of Trump and Elon Musk’s plan to cut spending and reduce the size of the federal workforce. In recent weeks, the administration has laid off thousands of probationary federal workers, fired top officials and watchdogs, and convinced 77,000 workers to voluntarily leave their jobs through a deferred resignation offer.
Graugnard said while he supports government efficiency, he “didn’t vote for it to be implemented the way it’s being implemented.”
“I voted confidently with the intent that it was going to be done in a way that was technocratic and efficient and a bit more rational, and that’s not what happened,” Graugnard said.
Still, Graugnard said he does not regret voting for Trump.
“I still support all of the goals of the administration, and I think that I can respectfully disagree with the way those things are carried out,” he said.
James Diaz, a veteran recently fired from his job at the IRS, told CNN’s Laura Coates that while he stands by his vote for Trump, he disagrees with how the administration is handling the mass layoffs.
His performance reviews indicated he was meeting or exceeding expectations, Diaz said.
“I don’t think they are doing a very good job of finding out exactly what needs to be cut,” Diaz said. “I think they are just taking a chain saw to it instead of doing some critical thinking and doing some investigations to see what is good and what is bad.”
‘Tunnel vision’
But some fired federal employees say they regret voting for Trump.
A former worker at the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, who asked not to be named, said she was laid off just three weeks into her new job.
She said she hoped Trump would improve the economy by creating more job opportunities and reducing inflation, and did not expect his administration to go after probationary workers.
“If I’d known that I would never have voted for him,” she said.
“This is going to completely tarnish the presidency,” she said. “This isn’t the way that our democracy works, and I don’t understand why (Trump) thinks this is acceptable.”
Ryleigh Cooper said she voted for Trump in November because he promised to make in vitro fertilization available for free.
Cooper said doctors had told her IVF might be her only option for conceiving a child.
“Going into the voting booth, the main thing on my mind was … I want to be a mom,” Cooper told CNN’s Laura Coates.
Last month, Cooper was laid off from her job at the US Forest Service. She told Coates she now regrets supporting Trump.
Trump, who last year called himself the “father of IVF,” has not made IVF free but instead signed an executive order last month to expand access to and affordability of in vitro fertilization.
“I made a decision that, looking back, I am not proud of,” Cooper said of her vote.
“When you’re voting on something that affects you so personally, it’s really easy to get tunnel vision.”
They voted for Trump in 2024. Months later, his administration fired them
Michael Graugnard said he voted for President Donald Trump in the 2024 election because he felt Trump was the best candidate to improve the economy.
But three months into his new role as an attorney advisor for the US Department of Agriculture, Graugnard was laid off along with thousands of other federal employees. The termination, Graugnard said, came as a surprise given his managers had assured him his job was safe.
“I was devastated,” Graugnard told CNN, adding this was his dream job and he had just moved to Little Rock, Arkansas, with his pregnant wife and toddler for the position. “I was expecting to spend the rest of my life doing it.”
Graugnard is among many federal workers who lost their jobs three months after casting their ballot for Trump. Former federal employees told CNN they believed Trump’s policies aligned with their values and would improve their lives, but now they have been left scrambling to find work.
The mass layoffs are part of Trump and Elon Musk’s plan to cut spending and reduce the size of the federal workforce. In recent weeks, the administration has laid off thousands of probationary federal workers, fired top officials and watchdogs, and convinced 77,000 workers to voluntarily leave their jobs through a deferred resignation offer.
Graugnard said while he supports government efficiency, he “didn’t vote for it to be implemented the way it’s being implemented.”
“I voted confidently with the intent that it was going to be done in a way that was technocratic and efficient and a bit more rational, and that’s not what happened,” Graugnard said.
Still, Graugnard said he does not regret voting for Trump.
“I still support all of the goals of the administration, and I think that I can respectfully disagree with the way those things are carried out,” he said.
James Diaz, a veteran recently fired from his job at the IRS, told CNN’s Laura Coates that while he stands by his vote for Trump, he disagrees with how the administration is handling the mass layoffs.
His performance reviews indicated he was meeting or exceeding expectations, Diaz said.
“I don’t think they are doing a very good job of finding out exactly what needs to be cut,” Diaz said. “I think they are just taking a chain saw to it instead of doing some critical thinking and doing some investigations to see what is good and what is bad.”
‘Tunnel vision’
But some fired federal employees say they regret voting for Trump.
A former worker at the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, who asked not to be named, said she was laid off just three weeks into her new job.
She said she hoped Trump would improve the economy by creating more job opportunities and reducing inflation, and did not expect his administration to go after probationary workers.
“If I’d known that I would never have voted for him,” she said.
“This is going to completely tarnish the presidency,” she said. “This isn’t the way that our democracy works, and I don’t understand why (Trump) thinks this is acceptable.”
Ryleigh Cooper said she voted for Trump in November because he promised to make in vitro fertilization available for free.
Cooper said doctors had told her IVF might be her only option for conceiving a child.
“Going into the voting booth, the main thing on my mind was … I want to be a mom,” Cooper told CNN’s Laura Coates.
Last month, Cooper was laid off from her job at the US Forest Service. She told Coates she now regrets supporting Trump.
Trump, who last year called himself the “father of IVF,” has not made IVF free but instead signed an executive order last month to expand access to and affordability of in vitro fertilization.
“I made a decision that, looking back, I am not proud of,” Cooper said of her vote.
“When you’re voting on something that affects you so personally, it’s really easy to get tunnel vision.”
Happy to hear itPleaseBlitz wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 11:50 amCurious as to whether PR wants independence. Mostly bc my neighbor is a Puerto Rican Trump supporter. He’s also about to lose his DoD job to thanks to POTUS. Hard to feel bad for him when he voted for, and loves, Trump.
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The way it's going, he'll get deportedPleaseBlitz wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 11:50 amCurious as to whether PR wants independence. Mostly bc my neighbor is a Puerto Rican Trump supporter. He’s also about to lose his DoD job to thanks to POTUS. Hard to feel bad for him when he voted for, and loves, Trump.
You can bring them back, but Americans are going to pay more. Tariffs do cause jobs to come back, but at the cost of everybody paying more and hurting other industries by creating artificial increases in the demand for labor and by making down stream costs for supplies more.Emir of Schmoe wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 4:16 pmThis, among 1,000 other things, is what baffles me about these idiots. History says, no, those jobs are never coming back.
I had a maga moron (my since retired dentist) try to tell me: The jobs and factories are coming back! No, dumbass, they are not coming back. You gave away those jobs in the 80s, 90s, 00s to tax breaks for companies to move overseas. I told him: You're old enough to remember when northern NJ was the pharma production capital of the world. Every major pharma company had a factory(ies) throughout that area. Guess what? You gave them tax breaks to move to Puerto Rico and other places outside of the US in the 80s. Those jobs are NEVER coming back!
I had a client - Eli Lilly - in the mid/late 90s. They had a product that was made in Indiana, then shipped to Kinsale (Ireland) for further processing and then sent to PR for tableting. Why? Cheaper than doing it all in the US. That was 30 years ago. Those jobs are gone.
Steel tariffs bring back steal jobs. But they also hurt US companies that use steel to make things that get exported. Those companies then have to pay more for steel and more for workers which normally means fewer exports. The net effect is normally your better off having US companies be able to buy steel cheap, make things, and then export it. Those tend to be the higher paying and more durable jobs. And what you've really done in the long term is hurt your economy by protecting low end jobs.
(In terms of this video, the guys an idiot. There's no reason to think maintenance of robots is going to be higher skill/paying job then building iphones. And then there's no reason to think that building iphones in China won't still be cheaper because the people mantaining the robots and build the factories will still make (and not just labor but environmental laws, etc.)
(And really, the situation is even more complex. One of the things that's happened is today China is a good source for skilled labor, but they are still easily connected to other countries where labor is still cheap (e.g Vietnam and Philippines). In theory, you could do something similar here with the US, Canada, Mexico, and down into Central America and the Caribbean. But that won't happen when you are threatening tariffs on Mexico and Canada and don't have a consistent/systematic message/plan. Biden was working on building a similar network as what we see in Asia:
https://www.reuters.com/technology/us-m ... 024-03-28/)