Sad news- Name is staying.

[Jumbo]

Technically, there is "politics" in some of the content here in this thread, and it's very hard to have this topic open and not have that be the case.

One reason we stopped even discussing the name change in any forum on OG ES was that fact, added to the reality that everyone was just repeating the same stuff ad infinitum and there was really nowhere for the topic to "go." It would just be an endlessly revolving crap fest.

But speaking just for myself, I was going to be more flexible on this here on ExComm and see how it went.

However, I just deleted a post where the author went overboard in indulging himself in expressing his sociopolitical views on the name change and saying "I'll probably be banned for this" at least twice before he made each additional political aspect he "needed to share."

Whenever someone says "I'll probably be banned for this..." and then goes ahead anyway I'm usually tempted to honor his effort at self-immolation for several reasons, but I didn't in this case. Nor will I name him as he's not had any other missteps here.

But for however long this thread is open, I strongly encourage everyone to kindly use real effort to avoid all the political angles or at the least keep it to the absolute minimum.

[TNskin]

Technically, there is "politics" in some of the content here in this thread, and it's very hard to have this topic open and not have that be the case.

One reason we stopped even discussing the name change in any forum on OG ES was that fact, added to the reality that everyone was just repeating the same stuff ad infinitum and there was really nowhere for the topic to "go." It would just be an endlessly revolving crap fest.

But speaking just for myself, I was going to be more flexible on this here on ExComm and see how it went.

However, I just deleted a post where the author went overboard in indulging himself in expressing his sociopolitical views on the name change and saying "I'll probably be banned for this" at least twice before he made each additional political aspect he "needed to share."

Whenever someone says "I'll probably be banned for this..." and then goes ahead anyway I'm usually tempted to honor his effort at self-immolation for several reasons, but I didn't in this case. Nor will I name him as he's not had any other missteps here.

But for however long this thread is open, I strongly encourage everyone to kindly use real effort to avoid all the political angles or at the least keep it to the absolute minimum.

So facts about the old name are “political”? Yet you can post a video with incorrect statements and that’s ok. Got it.

[Jumbo]

Technically, there is "politics" in some of the content here in this thread, and it's very hard to have this topic open and not have that be the case.

One reason we stopped even discussing the name change in any forum on OG ES was that fact, added to the reality that everyone was just repeating the same stuff ad infinitum and there was really nowhere for the topic to "go." It would just be an endlessly revolving crap fest.

But speaking just for myself, I was going to be more flexible on this here on ExComm and see how it went.

However, I just deleted a post where the author went overboard in indulging himself in expressing his sociopolitical views on the name change and saying "I'll probably be banned for this" at least twice before he made each additional political aspect he "needed to share."

Whenever someone says "I'll probably be banned for this..." and then goes ahead anyway I'm usually tempted to honor his effort at self-immolation for several reasons, but I didn't in this case. Nor will I name him as he's not had any other missteps here.

But for however long this thread is open, I strongly encourage everyone to kindly use real effort to avoid all the political angles or at the least keep it to the absolute minimum.

So facts about the old name are “political”? Yet you can post a video with incorrect statements and that’s ok. Got it.

I'm apparently guilty of the old sin of posting something I didn't really check out closely before doing so. I'll delete the video. I thought it was "innocent" and wasn't politically charged.

Nevertheless, your tone in this post is another misstep (after your "I'll prob be banned"stuff) and it's an unnecessarily pissy rebuke you're making. Also, some of your "facts" are quite challengeable in valid debate, but we're not going to do that.

Why don't you take what I'm saying in this post and the previous one to heart and lose all the attitude and posturing. Then we can just get back to solid posting.

[JaydenOurSavior16]

Didn’t see a uniform thread on here yet, so posting this here. Team revealed the alternate jerseys today. These will be worn on SNF vs Seahawks, SNF vs broncos, and Christmas Day vs cowboys. Looks just like the uniforms of the past!

[Warhead36]

Beautiful. Just beautiful.

Wish we could have brought the spear logo with it but I get that we wanna avoid the Native American imagery. We could have made it more Roman Gladiator-ish though.

[88Commanders00]

The “W” is dull. They don’t have to use Native American imagery but we a better Commander logo.

[Warhead36]

The “W” is dull. They don’t have to use Native American imagery but we a better Commander logo.

Yeah I think they're just terrified of using any sort of imagery that is related to Native Americans.

But they could have done something with the spear but make it more Roman-y though. It wouldn't shock me if that's the direction they're gonna eventually go in but it takes time.

My guess is these will be the full time jerseys in 2026.

[Jumbo]

Whatabout a great white shark wearing a naval commanders hat with a laser cannon mounted on his nose?

[The Sisko]

The “W” is dull. They don’t have to use Native American imagery but we a better Commander logo.

Nice throwbacks but I agree that the taco holder sux.

[Skinsfan1311]

Technically, there is "politics" in some of the content here in this thread, and it's very hard to have this topic open and not have that be the case.

One reason we stopped even discussing the name change in any forum on OG ES was that fact, added to the reality that everyone was just repeating the same stuff ad infinitum and there was really nowhere for the topic to "go." It would just be an endlessly revolving crap fest.

But speaking just for myself, I was going to be more flexible on this here on ExComm and see how it went.

However, I just deleted a post where the author went overboard in indulging himself in expressing his sociopolitical views on the name change and saying "I'll probably be banned for this" at least twice before he made each additional political aspect he "needed to share."

Whenever someone says "I'll probably be banned for this..." and then goes ahead anyway I'm usually tempted to honor his effort at self-immolation for several reasons, but I didn't in this case. Nor will I name him as he's not had any other missteps here.

But for however long this thread is open, I strongly encourage everyone to kindly use real effort to avoid all the political angles or at the least keep it to the absolute minimum.

I'll probably be banned for this but.................................................................................................................................
.......don't you think that "I'll Probably Be Banned For This" would make a great username for the board?